When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby jesse1 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:06 pm

Everybody will be back in September

Yeah because 2009 was the Worst Summer Ever (TM) and people couldn't stand being outside so they bought houses in record numbers in July and August instead. Good thing this year has good weather or they'd be buying again. That would really suck.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby jimtan on Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:43 pm

Hmmm!

Here's something else to think about. I mentioned the discipline of Vancouver developers with regards to short term supply. Vacancy in Vancouver has been mostly between 1% to 2%, Calgary between 4% to 1%, and Toronto has been all over the shop.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Johnny Horton on Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:57 pm

bottom line.....rents are generally unaffordable. :mrgreen:
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby registered on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:29 pm

Hmmm! Instead I used the raw Excel sheet available on the same page as these purdy pictures to calculate the average difference between Vancouver and Toronto over the period you cite and came up with an insignificant 0.29% lower vacancy rate for Van, from which we can reasonable conclude once again that you're full of shit.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby eyesthebye on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:02 pm

registered wrote:Hmmm! Instead I used the raw Excel sheet available on the same page as these purdy pictures to calculate the average difference between Vancouver and Toronto over the period you cite and came up with an insignificant 0.29% lower vacancy rate for Van, from which we can reasonable conclude once again that you're full of shit.



that's your problem registered - always using data, charts and spreadsheets...no real life experience.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby registered on Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:56 am

eyesthebye wrote:
registered wrote:Hmmm! Instead I used the raw Excel sheet available on the same page as these purdy pictures to calculate the average difference between Vancouver and Toronto over the period you cite and came up with an insignificant 0.29% lower vacancy rate for Van, from which we can reasonable conclude once again that you're full of shit.



that's your problem registered - always using data, charts and spreadsheets...no real life experience.

Responding to jimtan's series of graphs with a single number is too academic? Priceless. Looking forward to your explanation on what form of real life experience is applicable to the 40 year history of rental vacancies across Canada's two largest CMAs. That's a lot of moving.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby jesse1 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:00 am

Never let data and logic come in the way of real life experience! LOL
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Austin on Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:37 am

There's another diff with Miami, jesse:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/23/vacanc ... ities.html

Miami, which ranks No. 8, owns a whopping 12.7% rental vacancy rate, up from 11.4% a year ago;

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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Austin on Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:47 am

Metro Vancouver's apartment vacancy rate edged up to 2.2 per cent in the spring more or less in step with most markets in British Columbia and Canada that saw higher apartment availability, a new report from Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. said

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/com ... z0vBVSXZ9c
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Austin on Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:01 am

More Vacancy rates:

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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Johnny Horton on Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:08 am

Never let data and logic come in the way of real life experience! LOL

...especially if the data is wrong. :mrgreen:
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Thompson on Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:22 pm

Bears, go home to have a sweet dream ... IF you see rental vacancy rates is over 10%, then real estate of Vancouver will be crashed big time like Windsor, or Miami, or las vigas.
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby metalhead on Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:30 pm

Bears, go home



Bwahahaaaa, those July sales figures have you really shook up, don't they Tommy?
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby Thompson on Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:39 pm

metalhead wrote:
Bears, go home



Bwahahaaaa, those July sales figures have you really shook up, don't they Tommy?

This July sales are fine to me ... not perfect though :P.
What do you expect any way ... market is on fire for each and every year in past 10 years, except 08. Now sales beats 08!!
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Re: When is a 'bubble' not a BUBBLE?

Postby metalhead on Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:20 pm

Thompson wrote: Now sales beats 08!!


Barely.
Bwahaha, way to look at the good side of a rotten piece of fruit.
I did see one Sold sign in Abbotsford last week. I guess things aren't so bad. :lol:
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