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jimtan
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Seniors need special homes

Thu May 04, 2017 11:22 am

'We're so far behind': Canada unprepared for housing needs of rising senior population

Statistics Canada census figures show greatest increase in the proportion of seniors...

Statistics Canada 2016 census figures released on Wednesday revealed that the country recorded its greatest increase in the proportion of seniors. The increase in the number of seniors, who now outnumber children, could have implications on future policy making, in particular the housing needs of the elderly.

In a 2015 report, Future Care for Canadian Seniors: A Status Quo Forecast, the Conference Board of Canada estimated that by 2026 over 2.4 million Canadians age 65 and over will require paid and unpaid continuing care support — up 71 per cent from 2011. By 2046, this number will reach nearly 3.3 million... "

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/seniors-canadian-census-aging-home-care-1.4097293
 
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Thu May 04, 2017 6:29 pm

We need to keep them in the homes they have. That means subsidies for adaptive equipment, renovations, etc
We need to index the BC Housing SAFER subsidy for rent. The cap has been $700 for metro Vancouver since before BC liberals got elected...16+ years. That basically amounts to a regressive tax on seniors.
Or how about giving family a set amount to care for their own elderly? That would keep the housing cost (overhead) down.
All these ideas cost money...who will pay? Is everyone on board with paying more tax?
 
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Thu May 04, 2017 6:56 pm

Who pays the tax? Well it isn't the people that own the most expensive homes in the province - apparently they are the lowest income earners.

Nobody can afford taxes in BC - we are all too busy paying down our massive mortgages.
 
jimtan
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Thu May 04, 2017 7:11 pm

eyesthebye2 wrote:
We need to keep them in the homes they have. That means subsidies for adaptive equipment, renovations, etc
We need to index the BC Housing SAFER subsidy for rent. The cap has been $700 for metro Vancouver since before BC liberals got elected...16+ years. That basically amounts to a regressive tax on seniors.
Or how about giving family a set amount to care for their own elderly? That would keep the housing cost (overhead) down.
All these ideas cost money...who will pay? Is everyone on board with paying more tax?

I agree with the grist of what you said. As for funding, it's going to be tough because of the aging population. Guess we'll just have to tax the speculators more.  :P
 
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 6:45 am

reallyreal2 wrote:
Who pays the tax?  Well it isn't the people that own the most expensive homes in the province - apparently they are the lowest income earners.

Nobody can afford taxes in BC - we are all too busy paying down our massive mortgages.

not everyone has a big mortgage - envy is showing again
 
tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 6:45 am

jimtan wrote:
'We're so far behind': Canada unprepared for housing needs of rising senior population

Statistics Canada census figures show greatest increase in the proportion of seniors...

Statistics Canada 2016 census figures released on Wednesday revealed that the country recorded its greatest increase in the proportion of seniors. The increase in the number of seniors, who now outnumber children, could have implications on future policy making, in particular the housing needs of the elderly.

In a 2015 report, Future Care for Canadian Seniors: A Status Quo Forecast, the Conference Board of Canada estimated that by 2026 over 2.4 million Canadians age 65 and over will require paid and unpaid continuing care support — up 71 per cent from 2011. By 2046, this number will reach nearly 3.3 million... "

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/seniors-canadian-census-aging-home-care-1.4097293

We're so far ahead. Canada is pumping out care aides and homes like there's no tomorrow., not to mention the money seniors get.
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tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 6:47 am

jimtan wrote:
eyesthebye2 wrote:
We need to keep them in the homes they have. That means subsidies for adaptive equipment, renovations, etc
We need to index the BC Housing SAFER subsidy for rent. The cap has been $700 for metro Vancouver since before BC liberals got elected...16+ years. That basically amounts to a regressive tax on seniors.
Or how about giving family a set amount to care for their own elderly? That would keep the housing cost (overhead) down.
All these ideas cost money...who will pay? Is everyone on board with paying more tax?

I agree with the grist of what you said. As for funding, it's going to be tough because of the aging population. Guess we'll just have to tax the speculators more.  :P

You're just showing your envy and drool about speculators. Try working harder. plonk
 
jimtan
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 7:25 am

tdma800 wrote:
jimtan wrote:
'We're so far behind': Canada unprepared for housing needs of rising senior population

Statistics Canada census figures show greatest increase in the proportion of seniors...

Statistics Canada 2016 census figures released on Wednesday revealed that the country recorded its greatest increase in the proportion of seniors. The increase in the number of seniors, who now outnumber children, could have implications on future policy making, in particular the housing needs of the elderly.

In a 2015 report, Future Care for Canadian Seniors: A Status Quo Forecast, the Conference Board of Canada estimated that by 2026 over 2.4 million Canadians age 65 and over will require paid and unpaid continuing care support — up 71 per cent from 2011. By 2046, this number will reach nearly 3.3 million... "

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/seniors-canadian-census-aging-home-care-1.4097293

We're so far ahead. Canada is pumping out care aides and homes like there's no tomorrow., not to mention the money seniors get.
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tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 7:29 am

^--- irrelevant linkless picture. plonk
 
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 7:55 am

tdma800 wrote:
jimtan wrote:
'We're so far behind': Canada unprepared for housing needs of rising senior population

Statistics Canada census figures show greatest increase in the proportion of seniors...

Statistics Canada 2016 census figures released on Wednesday revealed that the country recorded its greatest increase in the proportion of seniors. The increase in the number of seniors, who now outnumber children, could have implications on future policy making, in particular the housing needs of the elderly.

In a 2015 report, Future Care for Canadian Seniors: A Status Quo Forecast, the Conference Board of Canada estimated that by 2026 over 2.4 million Canadians age 65 and over will require paid and unpaid continuing care support — up 71 per cent from 2011. By 2046, this number will reach nearly 3.3 million... "

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/seniors-canadian-census-aging-home-care-1.4097293

We're so far ahead. Canada is pumping out care aides and homes like there's no tomorrow., not to mention the money seniors get.
plonk

that's false TDMA. There is a national move away from the responsibility of the govt to care for seniors, and back to family and other informal sources. In spite of the rising population of seniors we are not building more care home. The opposite is true. Care home that were ward system (2 to 4 per room) are converted to single occupant. That means less spaces.
 
tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 8:00 am

just drive around oakridge mall looks like a giant building for seniors

plonk
 
jimtan
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 8:22 am

What you dullards don't realize is that Oakridge Ctr has the third highest gross in Canada.

"Canada's top 20 highest grossing malls"

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/05/cana ... ing-malls/
 
tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 8:39 am

People that live in Vancouver know that there's a giant seniors complex going up near cambie and 41st
 
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 8:55 am

Fake news
 
tdma800
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Re: Seniors need special homes

Fri May 05, 2017 8:58 am

Lots of seniors homes at the oak ridge area of vancouver

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