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tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:42 pm

yzfr1 wrote:
reallyreal2 wrote:
yzfr1 wrote:




Simmer down there..

If they wanted to tax the presale contract. Upon transfer of the contract the actual value of the sale would be declared. Both sides would write it down and would be registered in a binding contract.

If buyer wants to declare actual value, then seller won't give him the discount. Its in the buyers interest to declare less so buyer and seller can save on tax.

Because value is declared on the spot of sale of contract there will be no future changes in value and CRA blah blah blah.

Reallyreals whole argument is netrualizes with basic logic. Again wasting everyone's time with stupid posts.

I think you are starting to go to TDMA's school of english via Google Translate.
I have zero idea what you are talking about - mostly because you don't have a clue.  
Above, I have very simply explained how CRA can track down assignment contracts.  I have zero clue what your point is.
If what you are saying is that the buyer and seller are colluding on price of an assignment so the seller avoids tax - and by doing so, the seller is giving the buyer a discount.... well then the seller has paid tax by accepting less proceeds (just the buyer in this case is the beneficiery).  Then when the buyer goes to sell, his ACB will be lower by the discount... meaning they will pay more tax when they sell.
Again - think this through step by step ... it's not that hard.

If what you are saying is that the buyer and seller are colluding on price of an assignment so the seller avoids tax - and by doing so, the seller is giving the buyer a discount.... well then the seller has paid tax by accepting less proceeds (just the buyer in this case is the beneficiery).
Ill make this easy for you to understand,
Party A has a contract on a $500,000 apartment. Person B wants to buy that contract, they agree on $10,000. There is no way anyone can know the amount of the agreed upon purchase of the contract. That's a private # only party A and party B are privy to. If there is regulation changes, and thus forcing a amount to be disclosed in the event of a contract change. The only way to ascertain that information is for Party A and B is to declare that value in the contract takeover. That value will always be fraudulently lower.  
Part A would be on the hook for tax $1,200. Party A can turn around and say the sale was $1 and both split this difference of $600. Party A still gets his $9,400 instead of $ 8,800 and party B pays $9,400 instead of $10,000

Then when the buyer goes to sell, his ACB will be lower by the discount... meaning they will pay more tax when they sell.

When you do your tax, try adding "pre sale $" and deduct. You just made that up, its a practice that doesn't exist. If this was allowed the fraud would be huge, it would be even more beneficial to overstate the value. 
Also for most people there would be no taxes when the seller sells.

Before you go on shooting your mouth. Why dont you answer EyesTheBall... you kept claiming there was $2 million dollars sales in 2015 in gradview area. Tyga tried be nice and give you benefit of the doubt.
You can't be a troll when you can't win the argument and when you feel like you want to add some input have people take you seriously.
Don't be such a scum bag. Have some humanity

Looks like notnot3 is a certified noob
 
jimtan
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:13 pm

Start by eliminating the wild west culture. Do whatever you like, get rich quick, ignore the rules.

"Richmond to crack down on short-term rentals by end April

Mayor says at least 1,500 short-term rentals in city: 'It's really affecting the neighbourhoods'

... Brodie speculates the approximately 1,500 web based rental listings for Richmond are just a fraction of what's actually being offered for short term stays..."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4075478
 
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:31 am

^---- solution in search of a problem - irrelevant
 
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:43 pm

Yaah...

"Victoria council gives tentative approval to 15 per cent foreign buyers tax

Council committee votes to ask province to implement same 15 per cent foreign buyer's tax as Metro Vancouver... "

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4082632
 
tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:46 pm

^-- irrelevant for a smaller city

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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:26 pm

whatever it takes to control the bloodsuckers
 
tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:00 pm

^---- solution in search of a problem


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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:23 am

Important reason why governments need to be vigilant about foreign money ...

"5 from B.C. on China's 'most wanted' list of 22 alleged criminals

'They don't need to publish these lists so who are they trying to scare?'

China's anti-corruption agency has released the names and addresses of 22 alleged economic fugitives deemed "most wanted," but living free around the world — five of them listed  as living in B.C.

The alleged criminals, wanted for a variety of corruption-related crimes from embezzlement to fraud, are described as living in the open in Canada, the U.S. and other countries, according to a statement from the the Central Committee for Discipline and Inspection (CCDI)...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.4091272
 
tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:43 am

^--- irrelevant.  who cares if someone comes and goes shopping, except those with envy and drool over what they want and dont want to work for
 
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Mon May 01, 2017 7:18 am

Here's why Canada needs a new direction...

"Life After Oil Makes Real Estate Canada's New Economic Crutch

On Friday, Statistics Canada released gross domestic product data that showed February was a banner month for sectors linked to housing. The real estate industry, residential construction, financial and legal services generated a combined 0.5 percent increase in output, the biggest one-month gain since 2014. Without those, the overall economy would have contracted slightly in February.

A day earlier, the Ontario government released a budget that projects land transfer taxes will surpass C$3 billion ($2 billion) in the current fiscal year, from C$1.8 billion three years ago. For the province, it’s the difference between a balanced budget and a deficit.

Measures of housing’s contribution to the economy are imprecise, but estimates largely put the direct contribution in excess of 20 percent..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -eco-watch

That's why its not sustainable. Our population is growing at only 1% a year. In metro Vancouver, we have a record 30k apartments under construction!!!!!!!
 
tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Mon May 01, 2017 7:22 am

^--- irrelevant foreign fake media
 
tdma800
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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Mon May 01, 2017 7:23 am

people that actually live in Canada know that Vancouver and Toronto take in the most people. over 30,000 a year each

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Re: What must the governments do to stop speculation?

Wed May 03, 2017 7:19 am

Its working. TO market stalling as new listings rise by the most since 2010.  :!:
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